Canada Date

Good news for you Canadian fans. Europe is going to Toronto on Sun, 05/08/050 9:00 PM Lee's Palace Toronto, ON. Buy Tickets at www.ticketmaster.com

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Written by: Rasikh 24/03/2005 4.38
Good news for you Canadian fans. Europe is going to Toronto on Sun, 05/08/050 9:00 PM Lee's Palace Toronto, ON. Buy Tickets at www.ticketmaster.com

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Wow what a "hot news", lol check there plz (2 rows under your post in the same forum .. grats ) :

http://www.freeforumzone.com/viewmessaggi.aspx?f=22336&idd=1653

Wow dude you caught another mistake you are awesome dude!!! WTF is wrong with you man? Still waiting for you ON BROKEN WINGS tab as well as recording of superstitous you ignorant ass. I don't read every single thread on here. I came accross it and posted it up here just in case someone else didn't see it. again crap weasel Seriously Hadi what's with you and correcting people all the time? Were you dropped on your head when you were a baby or something? TALK TALK TALK that's all you are lol. Loser.

BTW Hadi read what the other title for the thread is. "Petition for Europe to Play Canada" You know what that means son? It means people signing so that Europe would play in Canada. Since I am not Canadian I didn't sign the petition or even read it. Now if it said Europe in Canada maybe I would know it was posted up already. But anyways who cares? It got posted up twice. So? Dude just stop correcting people all the time...whether it be guitar playing, typing or posting a news up. I can so tell you are one annoying guy in real life lol. Wow amazing people like you exist eh...BTW still waiting for reply on the Guitar Section. Would to see what you have to say. And again waiting for you recording of superstitous solo and On Broken Wings tab. Come on man help us Europe fans out since you have such great ear for music.

Rasikh:

Thank you for the info.

While I personally did know about the concert already I thank you for your gesture of good will to inform us.

In fact I started the 'petition thread'. At the time TicketMaster did not have it up and the first I knew of the concert was through a fellow message board member's reply to my post. (Thank you again Renske!)

Although I avoided it in another back and forth thread, I am going to get political and take a stand here. Fan or fanatic, Europe means different things to each of us. For one individual to constantly weigh his opinions and thoughts above the rest of the Europe Message Board visitors and members is sad. I agree with you that he should chill, he obviously doesn't understand that we come here and share for the sake of sharing, not to make ourselves feel important.

I respect his opinions whether I necessarily agree or not, but certainly not his attitude. I'm sure my quoting Europe (or in this case as he would deem 'Non-Europe' and therefore irrevelant) lyrics to get a point across will not sit well with him, but maybe, just maybe he should LISTEN to the lyrics and the message they convey some times too;

"WE ALL OWN THE RIGHT TO RESPECT".

Jake.

I agree with you. I am not trying to be famous or popular by being here. This is a message board I check everyday but don't read every single thread. But whenever I find out about a news post it up here just so that everyone knows about it. It's just really ironic that lately we've had a few ignorant people on here. But hey enjoy the show dude!!!!! I am going to 6 Shows in US lol. Errr my credit card bill this month was ridiculous lol. But I know it's well worth it. Take care dude.

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Written by: Phantom Scorpio 26/03/2005 7.18

While I personally did know about the concert already I thank you for your gesture of good will to inform us.

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Reading before posting is a "good forum attitude basis" in all forums of the world. This forum is not moderated which is why we can see people who post without reading even the 2 or 3 posts just beside which are already saying the same but with even more info into it... that's a shame but the fact that you agree with this poor attitude is even more a shame . But somehow : I don't care, I think you come here to bash in conjunction with Rasikh, not to seriously think about what is a correct forum member attitude.

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In fact I started the 'petition thread'. At the time TicketMaster did not have it up and the first I knew of the concert was through a fellow message board member's reply to my post. (Thank you again Renske!)

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Yes and once again, people should read before posting, that's a truth in all forums and I don't see why it wouldn't be a truth in this one.

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Although I avoided it in another back and forth thread, I am going to get political and take a stand here.

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Yes I know that the pill didn't pass your throat in the other thread. You want to team with Rasikh to gain force against me.. man that's a so poor attitude. Gain force with your arguments instead. I am here to discuss with correct people. When I told you I didn't agree with you in the other thread I never insulted you.

You are shaking hands with Rasikh who is relying on the fact that there is no moderation in this forum so he can insult me in all posts just because I said (and I'll always say) that his interpretation of Superstitious on his mp3 was muddy (which is a fact anyone is free to check and then to agree or disagree.. but that's really obvious when you hear it).

So an insulter is already a poor person, but someone who rush to shake hands with him just because he doesn't have the courage to argument by his own in an other thread is an even poorer one.

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Fan or fanatic, Europe means different things to each of us. For one individual to constantly weigh his opinions and thoughts above the rest of the Europe Message Board visitors and members is sad. I agree with you that he should chill, he obviously doesn't understand that we come here and share for the sake of sharing, not to make ourselves feel important.

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I don't feel important. I never say I am. I'm not more or less important than you. But when I hear mud and I read "look I can play decent Superstitious" : then I say no it's not decent. Am I feeling important to do that. Not really ...

When I did read what you wrote in the other thread I gave you my opinion and did disagree with you on some points. You were mentionning song lyrics to counter things that I have really heard and that other people I know have noticed in concerts... I told you it's not a good way. Did I say it to feel important ? .. no I said it before I think so, that's all.

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I respect his opinions whether I necessarily agree or not, but certainly not his attitude.

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Yes I see, my attitude is bad but you are ok with Rasikh's one who is stronger at launching a bunch of insults on a forum than practicing his guitar. Grats man .

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I'm sure my quoting Europe (or in this case as he would deem 'Non-Europe' and therefore irrevelant) lyrics to get a point across will not sit well with him, but maybe, just maybe he should LISTEN to the lyrics and the message they convey some times too;

"WE ALL OWN THE RIGHT TO RESPECT".

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Yes I agree to these lyrics. But I just keep in mind that :

1 - lyrics are sometimes just lyrics and are not always the reflect of reality, maybe you should try to understand it.
2 - We all own the right to respect, and I don't need lyrics to consider this fact, but I don't see any respect in the fact of posting in a forum without making any *minimum* reading around to see if people hasn't posted on the same subject in a recent topic. That means you are here to post only, not to read. It equals to someone who only speaks and never listen.
3 - Trying to make a team with an insulter just to compensate for a poor argumentation will never be a respectable attitude in any world. How can you speak about respect and make team with an insulter ? Where is your logic gone man ?

I listen to lyrics of songs I like, but fortunately for me I have other sources of information to have an opinion, and moreover I am able to discuss with someone who disagree with me.

As many "fans" it seems you are not. That's maybe something you should work, but that's up to you.

Bye

Hadi

http://europemusic.forumactif.com

Hadi:

No offense intended, even though you take everything as such or as a personal attack, but you are clearly the one in the wrong here.

Rasikh was being positive by sharing information.
YOU were using a 'bad forum attitude basis' in jumping down his throat for posting something. Your excessive use of emoctions would also convey to the rest of us on this 'non-moderated board' that YOU are not practicing a 'good forum attitude basis'.

I would go as far as to say Hadi that this mentality of foisting your attitude and opinion on others, especially when you could have simply ignored Rasikh's posting that was in no way offensive to anyone but you, is the classic mindset of a dictator.

Whatever deluded 'world forum basis' you have concocted to aid your weak and pathetic arguments aside, you do have problems.

YOUR INITIAL REPLY TO RASIKH'S POSTING WAS THE UNPROVOKED ATTACK. Again, using you argument of 'goof forum basis' there simply was no need for your rude reply. AT ALL. You could have read it like other people and gone on to something else.

If you feel that people are ganging up on you perhaps you should look inward and discover what you are doing to offend those people in the first place:
You are correct Hadi, there is no moderator on this message board. And yet no one asked you to be it, so please do not oppress everyone else here with your need to police us. That is the self importance I mentioned before and from a psychological basis it is an undeniable truth.
GET OFF YOUR SOAPBOX!

Jake.

[Modificato da Phantom Scorpio 27/03/2005 14.19]

Rasikh:

I would love to go to the show in Toronto but it conflicts with my schedule; I will be working that day. :(
I am looking into some of the shows in the north-east U.S.A. I really like the one at B.B.King's in Times Square, but may opt to drive to the Detroit show instead. You say you are going to 6 shows, which ones?

Jake.

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Written by: Phantom Scorpio 27/03/2005 14.16
Hadi:

No offense intended, even though you take everything as such or as a personal attack, but you are clearly the one in the wrong here.

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I don't think so.

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Rasikh was being positive by sharing information.
YOU were using a 'bad forum attitude basis' in jumping down his throat for posting something. Your excessive use of emoctions would also convey to the rest of us on this 'non-moderated board' that YOU are not practicing a 'good forum attitude basis'.

YOUR INITIAL REPLY TO RASIKH'S POSTING WAS THE UNPROVOKED ATTACK.

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I HAVE BEEN INSULTED IN THE FOLLOWING POST : http://www.freeforumzone.com/viewmessaggi.aspx?f=22336&idd=1577 SO YOU CAN NEVER SAY THAT MY REPLY WAS AN UNPROVOKED ATTACK.

Yes I'm strict with Rasikh because he have insulted me, so ? You expect me to kiss him for that ?

His post was a mistake there and yes I think it's correct to mention it, now the way I did it was few compared to the insults he sent to me in the mentionned post.

I won't insult him in return because I don't follow people in the mud when they go down in it. But he can't expect me (and neither you can) to be any nice with him especially when he pollutes the forum with a wrong posting attitude.

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Again, using you argument of 'goof forum basis' there simply was no need for your rude reply. AT ALL. You could have read it like other people and gone on to something else.

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Again, I have been insulted in the other forum. Maybe you weren't aware of that and I agree that you can't read all posts there, but before getting involved in this story and say things like "your unprovoked attack" etc., you could have tried to make some reading and be informed.

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If you feel that people are ganging up on you perhaps you should look inward and discover what you are doing to offend those people in the first place:

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1 - I never offend people. I try to see and tell the truth and people (or let's say a certain kind of people) get sometimes offended by the truth.

2 - When I see people "ganging" against me, I only see a proof of weakness, never of intelligence

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You are correct Hadi, there is no moderator on this message board. And yet no one asked you to be it, so please do not oppress everyone else here with your need to police us.

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I'm sorry but if you expect me to be 'convenient' with the trolls which are bugging the forum and who furthermore insulted me before, you are not speaking to the right person.

I don't mind if you don't gather information before "ganging" with insulters, once again, that's your (big) pb.

Hadi

Hadi dude listen what you are calling mud. Let's see when did I say "I play superstitous solo"? Go read www.freeforumzone.com/viewmessaggi.aspx?f=22336&idd=1577 carefully. Did I ever say I play that correctly...hmmm now me putting mud on Europe music. Dude how do I put mud on music? Anyone will agree with me that when I post my guitar playing up on my webpage I am not trying to be famous. I just trying to share what I can do and what others can do. Now let's see you just went ahead and talked about how bad I suck. Where as to Tommy went ahead and gave me advice which is great because I have been following his advice and trying to get better. But you on the other hand just say "oh that sucked". lol. But yet you are still talking without posting your solo so we can hear yours. Man if I was in here saying I am the best I am the best then you can say I am putting mud on Europe music. BTW Whatever happened to ON BROKEN WINGS? BTW you saying that I am ganging up with Scorpio because of another thread. Dude did I say anything to you in this forum til you started acting like you are all mighty and started attacking me? Scorpio and I aren't ganging up dude. It's all in your head. Just cuz people probably gang up on you in real life cuz you are annoying doesn't mean people on here are ganging up on you. Scorpio gave his opinion simple as that. And quiet frankly I think many other will give the same opinion about this thread. Like Scorpio said the title of this thread is "CANADA DATE" and if you were that intelligent and your time is that valueable that you can check this thread then don't read it genius. The title says it all. Man this is not the first time I seen you start being ignorant in this forum. You were ignorant many times with other people in this forum. Again dude please don't say anything til you put your On Broken Wings tab!!!!! How many times I have to tell you that my son?

I am going to Jaxx at Virginia, Ramshead Live at Baltimore, B.B. King at NYC, Troc at Philly, Crocodile at Allentown, and Starland Ballroom at NJ which is like 10 minutes from my house. How lucky am I? hehehe. You should let me know if you come to NYC since I am going by myself and it will be cool to chill with an Europe fan before an Europe show. BTW are you from USA/Canada?

BTW Hadi this forum isn't rocket science. My post was a mistake? lol Dude who said this forum is perfect and has to stay that way? Lot of people in here does that. Again like I said before not everyone read EVERY SINGLE forum on this MB. Read my one of the ones I wrote earlier on here. But just in case your time is too important to read it again I will say it again. I DIDNT POST CANADIAN DATE UP ON "PETITION FOR euROPE to PLAY IN CANADA" because a petition means "PEOPLE SIGNING SO EUROPE WILL SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE WANT IT AND SO EUROPE WOULD PLAY THERE" since I am not Canadian I didn't read that forum. Therefore I started a new thread but again next time just ignore it. ok?

Having the same kind of information on 2 different posts of the same forum is a non-sens, especially when posts are so near. Whatever the title of the other posts that speaks about Europe playing in Canada (and the ridiculous explanation you give for not reading it before posting about "Canada" dates), it holds useful information about the dates in this country and your post is a pain in the *** there.

Saying that you should make some minimum reading before posting is not asking you to be a rocket scientist but it seems you're taking it this way

Anyway I have been in your way there and I can't tell you it's the last time it happens

hf

Hadi

Ok your highness I am not going to argue with you and play a "forum war" with you over this little thing. If it bothers you next time don't read simple as that. Ok Hadi? You are the best of the best at everything even posting messages on a messageboard. You ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!! Happy?

Next time ?

Hmmm... bah I guess I will say something like :

Wow what a "hot news", lol check there plz (2 rows under your post in the same forum .. grats ) :

www.freeforumzone.com/viewmessaggi.aspx?f=22336&idd=1653

which is maybe the most important of all ..